Monday, November 28, 2005

Girls Seminaries In Israel - A Scam By The Scum

Received this e-mail from a reader

Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:42:24 -0800
From: "Oyba Zoy"
To: a_unorthodoxjew@yahoo.com

I've read your blog a few times, some of the things you have written about have really hit home. I want to share a seminary story with you. I don't know the name of the seminary, but I'm trying to find out.

A girl from my community got accepted to a real frummy place. Although her parents have very little money and a bunch of kids, if they want their daughter to get a shidduch with a learner, they have no choice but to send her to a $15,000 a year seminary. Right?

Anyway, she gets to Israel, and the first thing that happens is the head "Rabbi" takes away her passport and tells her that if she wants to leave the country, her parents better send the rest of the money immediately. Apparently. her parents could not pay the $15,000 in one shot, and thought they could pay the rest out over the course of the year. Sounds reasonable right? Wrong!

The girls father had a fit, spoke to the local rabbonim, and decided to borrow or do whatever he had to do to send the rest of the money asap. They sent the money, the girl got her passport, and she had a wonderful year in seminary learning that she's going have to work the rest of her life to support someone in kollel, or work he decides that if he wants to make some real money he had better open up a seminary and hold girls hostage. Pretty sickening isn't it?

Have a great shabbos.


Blogger Acher said...

Oh for the days when our daughters were raised to be like Miriam and Devorah and Yael rather then a bunch of timid

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:05:00 PM  
Blogger Acher said...

stupid verification input...

As I was saying, its rather pathetic that some religous families raise their daughters to be a bunch of Shtetl kittens to fear pseudo men like this rabbi rather then Miriam, Dvora, and Yael. They would have run roughshod over this bastard. And I dont know that I would leave my daughter at the whims of such an obvious pig. Hell for the cost of only the plane ticket there and back I could have gone over there and given him such an igrof bain hainaim shehay zocher oti leolam, ben zonah meluclach.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the storys true? It was never varified, and the person doesn't even the name the seminary. What a lame story that has not been varified? We don't even know it happened just because someone says it did doesn't mean it did.lets stick with whole truths,not half truths?

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Detective said...

It's incredible how people can't spell. A typo here and there is expected, but when verified turns into "varified" it's no laughing matter. It's alway the ignorant ones that deny the obvious.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be extremely carefull where you send your kids,especially daughters.
seminaries should not:
(1) Ask the girls to do free babysitting for the rebbezins in the name of chesed.
(2) Ask the girls to wash their rabbis rebbetzins floors or any clean up for the rebbetzins in the name of chesed. Its the rabbis responsibility to clean for his rebbetzin.
(3) no brainwashing for the kollel lifestyle,its not for everyone.Kollel woman go through alot, G-d bless them.No fairy tales about kollel life.
(4)Seminaries should be run by woman.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:00:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

A while back there were accusations that a frum person commited murder.
I remember hearing a rov of prominence say," the mere fact that someone in the frum community can be "accused" of such a heinous crime was bad enough, even though it may be not true."

Someone being accused of witholding a child's passport for money, who is in a leadership position, is bad enough for me.

I know that these TYPE of things go on in schools, I call it blackmail.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey detective, Don't lik mi speling.I recent de implikasions
that i kant spel. who ar u a prfreccor or somting.Get a liphe

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

seminaries are a business like any other.

The girls have no chiyuv in talmud toireh so the owners deserve sechar b'tayla.

The owners take what the market will bear. If the parents shell out and the girl needs her year or two in eretz yisroel, who's complaining? Don't send your kid.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous shlomo said...

Beacause some guy who you dont kow emailed you , you believe it!!!!??

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:12:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

If the owners are scumbags and opportunists, they should be pimping in Manhattan, not running seminaries.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger Y.Y. said...

ur rabbi tendler yimach shmo
is being charged with false testimony
he testified that an orhodox jew killed his boss which turned out false as the mafia was behind the murder
this poor jew sat in jail for 20 years because of this rasha tendler
finally some satmar lawyers brought DNA evidence to court
i cant wait for tendler to rot in prison

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Detective said...

Hello Y.Y.

Look what the Detective found:

"Y.Y. said...

i have no problem talking to my women neighbors of my sexual life
i talk about it all the time and they enjoy it
i dont see any problem with talking about sex

October 07, 2005 9:09 AM"


Y.Y., You're a loser.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know who this "YY" is - and I doubt that's his picture - but whenever he appears - the quality of the conversation really sinks

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell us more about your sex life, y.y.

everyone is interested.

Is what they say true? Satmar men have more fun?

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:34:00 PM  
Anonymous yaakov said...

Although i think seminary in Israel is a wonderfull way to waste money, if someone wants to give their daughter the opportunity to waste $20,000 of their hard earned money, that's their business.

HOWEVER, if someone would hold my daughter's passport hotage, I'd be on the next plane to Israel.

Let's see how tough one of these "rabbis" are close up and personal.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is this dog who run's a place called Hadar.If she is such an idealist she should take the girls for free

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:53:00 PM  
Anonymous dani said...

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine in Israel. The best thing to do is teach your daughters to stand up for themselves, and to tell you when something fishy is going on. Worked for me in seminary, and I was there to help my friends out too.

Monday, May 15, 2006 2:30:00 PM  
Anonymous emeslyaakov said...

All of the Seminaries for chutz ka'aretz girls, with the possible exception of one run by the sochnut, are private businesses.

As with any other private business, make your financial arrangements in advance. Pathmark will not let you out the door until you have arranged to pay for your groceries. Bloomingdales will not let you take home their clothes until you have paid.

So too when you go to the sephorim store or the mezuzza store.

He should not have taken her passport, but the parents should not have sent their daughter without making arrangements.

Monday, May 15, 2006 8:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ur all being really lame!!! i just spent a year in israel in seminary and if i could i would go back!!! yeah everything costs money... shoot have u seen the accomodations. some seminaries have really nice facilities... they also have dorm counselors, dorm families, adn teachers... when we pay for sem we pay for all of that plus our food, toilet paper, cleaning products all our trips wich there were alot of and a bunch of other stuff. yeah it is a bussiness but so is every other jewish school. btw the story, i dont know if its true but not ever school is like that. i was never pressured to marry a guy who sits and learns... i never had my passport taken awa and i still havent finished paying!! infact i still owe like 10 thousand!! they know they will get it when i have it and thats the it. also just for like wtvr look at most of the girls b4 they go and when they come back. seminary is a good thing for a lot of girls

Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38:00 PM  

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