Thursday, December 01, 2005

Rosh Yeshivas Get Together To Discuss New Ways To Squeeze Americans

Roshei Yeshivos Meet to Discuss Housing Crisis Among Young Couples in Israel

by Betzalel Kahn

A number of roshei yeshivos took part in a special meeting to discuss the housing crisis among bnei Torah. The roshei yeshivos discussed the possibilities currently available to avreichim and the difficulty in bearing the costs of marrying off children.

The heads of Binyan Sholem, founded by Degel HaTorah of Jerusalem, presented an overview of various projects currently marketed to bnei Torah in chareidi towns and elsewhere.

The roshei yeshivos shared accounts of painful cases of young couples seeking advice on how to alleviate the burden on parents trying to purchase apartments for their children. The shortage of work for kollel wives was also raised on the agenda in light of the increased cost of living as well as cuts in government funding and allowances in recent years.

A decision was reached to start a committee comprised of HaRav Boruch Shmuel HaKohen Deutsch, one of the roshei yeshiva of Yeshivas Kol Torah, HaRav Dovid Cohen, rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Hevron, HaRav Yigal Rosen, rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Ohr Yisroel, HaRav Yehoshua Ehrenberg, rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Chadera, HaRav Gavriel Yosef Levy, rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Be'er HaTorah, and HaRav Nachman Leibovitz, one of the roshei yeshiva of Yeshivas Mir.

HaRav Moshe Frank and Rav Menachem Blumental of Binyan Sholem spoke about the new project slated for construction in Yeruchom. HaRav Tzvi Friedland, who has led the Torah community in Yeruchom for decades, also addressed the rabbonim.

As an initial step the roshei yeshivos decided to start a unique kollel in Yeruchom immediately after Chanukah based on the precept of "Yehuda sholach lefonov."

The roshei yeshivos said only top avreichim from the Torah and yeshiva world would be selected for the kollel, which will offer excellent terms to allow them to labor and settle in "the tent of Torah" without having to worry about housing or income. The kollel will even offer periodic shiurim on a regular basis given by prominent roshei yeshivos making an extra effort to raise the banner of Torah in Yeruchom as part of the plan to help solve the housing crisis among bnei Torah.

During the meeting the rabbonim discussed the possibility of setting up a major foundation through the generosity of "yirei Shomayim contributors" from "abroad" to assist avreichim to purchase homes in the least expensive housing project available, the one in Yeruchom.

According to Binyan Sholem the roshei yeshivos will soon begin locating avreichim who will be carefully screened for the kollel in Yeruchom, calling this a first step in expanding the Torah community in the town and turning it into a large center for ruchniyus.

The Negev Region is currently slated for an impressive development boom. The government is allocating extensive resources to make the South flourish. By Chanukah, Israel Railways will reach the nearby town of Dimona and Highway 6 will reach as far as Beit Kama, bringing the Central Region much closer.

Development plans include the construction of software houses and high-tech companies, which will employ kollel wives at high salaries, tourism infrastructures including a hotel and convention hall, upgrading the artificial lake, widening roads, etc.

Following its successful bid for the construction franchise in the new part of Yeruchom, Binyan Sholem heads have decided to expand registration for the Naot Ha'irusim project.

They're coming for the YIREI SHOMAYIM CONTRIBUTORS; meaning if you don't give it up, you're just an American Shaigetz



Anonymous Anonymous said...

uoj doesn't like to contribute, hence, the anger.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Yungerman said...

How can we help the avreichim afford housing? Hmm... How about teach them a trade? Send them to college? Nah, college is for the modern, and a trade is for nebach balei batim. Never mind carefully screening avreichim for Yeruchom, start carefully screening them for Lakewood, Mir, Brisk, etc.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

Read between the lines people!! There is growing unrest among many Kollel wives and parents who got shafted into footing the bill and supporting a velt of leeches. The Rosh Yeshivas are getting nervous that this sham will slowly come to an end and subsequently the need for them (the Rosh Yeshivas)

People are waking up and realizing that they simply can't survive living off others while providing NOTHING in return. The irony is, these Rosh Yeshivas/Beheimas are sitting with their fat asses, on golden eggs!

Oh they will give shiur to these "seleced Avreichim" - big freakin deal!!!! It’s their job (no pun intended) to give shiur - what the hell else do these "Rasha" Yeshivas do all day besides schnorr money from the working Americans, who, by the way, are secretly abhorred by the pigs who run the Israeli Yeshivas and corrupt Chareidi political parties.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

I want to know when Jonathan Rosenblum became Rabbi Yonoson Rosenblum. Does the Hebrew name lend more credibility or was it at the request of the "Agudah Elite?"

I wonder where he got his semichah from, or if it was just an "honorary degree" similar to the type that black celebrities receive from liberal colleges after years of "achievement"

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:25:00 PM  
Anonymous DK said...

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Did you see the Penguin "orthodoxjew" blog that seeks to "stand up" to UOJ? Oh ho ho ho. What a bunch of greaseball illiterates. Is this the best you penguins can do?

I might just put a link to you guys when I start a blogroll seeking to prove that ultra-Orthodox Jewish fundamentalist bloggers are by and large ignorant of the fundamentals of basic grammar (they save their fundamentalism for other spiritual stuff), and warn potential ba'alei tshuvas that this is how their children will write if they become too religious. You know, Yated Ne'eman religious.

Thanks guys! I haven't laughed this hard since the Slifkin Ban.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:14:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hey R' Gross,
You're getting "angrier" than me, now I never thought I would ever see that happen.
I am going to put you in my will as the yoiresh of this blog, but for the next 100 some odd years you're JUST going to be the CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:47:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hey DK,
Since I am not a kollel guy, I am laughing my "skinny" ass off.
Thanks, I needed that today.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:49:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...


Excellent points and I agree with you 100%. Keep it up.

Interesting to note that the Belzer Rebbe came out a few weeks ago with the
proclamation that Kollel is not for everyone and those of his Kollel Yungerleit that are having serious difficulties with parnassah, leave the Kollel and learn a trade. Revolutionary idea? NO? Earth shattering is more like it.

The Gerrer Money Men have also complained about this state of non-productivity and the Gerrer Rebbe is seriously considering setting up Trade Schools for those that won't be the next Gadol Hador. This will be done because the baal'abatim are all squeezed out, Bibi has cut the subsidies with the sharp carving knife, and there is nowhere else to turn.

The tide is definitely turning for the better.

I hear you and agree with you that the sorry state of conversational and written English among Yeshiva Bochurim today is not only deplorable but is a Chilul Hashem. Many of these guys are in business and can't speak or write a coherent sentence. What do you think the educated Gentiles who come into contact with them think about these pathetic "People of the Book" who have no fluidity with the language of their host country? It's a bad joke.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:24:00 PM  
Anonymous yaakov said...

I have no problem if they think I'm not a yiras shomayim because I don't fund their housing projects before I buy my own children a place to live.

They have may reasons to believe I'm not a yiras shomayim....

I wear colored shirts.
I wear tan colored pants.
I daven three times a day in a baaleh batesheh minyan.
My wife wears a human hair shaitel.
I don't filter my water.
I use deoderant.
I shave.
I eat OU.
My slacks aren't rumpled.
I like jews from all denominations.
etc. etc. etc.

Let G-d judge who's a yiras shomayim.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:54:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

The first time I heard that OU "wasn't good enough" I couldn't believe my ears. I thought I'd heard it all. As if their enterprising Rebbe$ know the first thing about the laws of Kashrut. They rely on the OU and then place their Yiddishe label over the prexisiting one. All it takes is....you gue$$ed it!

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:03:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...


You dress like the goyim.
You may as well daven in a church
You're wife must be a shiksa
You know how many lavim you are oiver by drinking unfiltered water?!
Using deodorant is equivalent to wearing Bigdei Eisha
Your a mamzer
You eat traif
Your a fageleh
Go embrace the goyim - you may as well!

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:08:00 PM  
Anonymous yaakov said...


My sentiments exactly.

By baaleh batesheh minyonim all we do is make kiddush and act like the am haratzim that we really are.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:14:00 PM  
Anonymous yaakov said...


Filtered water is just another scam.
I've checked my water under a microscope......nope, nothing in there.


Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a thought. I wonder what these Roshei yeshiva would posken.
If one has a choice to support a local yeshiva here in the US(Day school--So that local jewish kids could get a torah education), or to support their housing projects in Israel? Who has priority?A person can't possibly allocate 100% of his pay for Tzadakah.Its impossible,and not halachic.We can't impoverish ourselves.They have to be carefull because it can
further turn American support off.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:40:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Psak Halacha;
Aniyei Ircha Kodem

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:43:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

These rosh yehivas are living in Disneyland.

We need more kollelim now?

They continue to HURT yiden, knowing full well there are donkeys that will do whatever they say.

Bibi was right in cutting the budget for these guys, but of course Bibi is an anti-semite....

That's why we are NOT ALLOWED to pay attention to whatever these monkeys say, they don't know what the f*** it takes for us to take care of our families.

How should they know, they've been shnorrers since the day they left the womb.

Sure, come to America and try selling housing for another kollel in Israel.
Come to my home and office, I want the pleasure of kicking your fat asses back to Israel.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:52:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Hear! Hear! OU!

don't worry, they'll be paying you a visit very soon.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If UOJ is ready to retire his blog, that would be a good idea.

Then all the gross boogers can take over.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:07:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

You're confusing me (UO) with the other guys.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:11:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

Anon 7:07,

I'll admit you got a chuckle outta me on that one.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:20:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...


You're right. They won't visit you.

You are their Kryptonite.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:01:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

anon; 7:07 PM.

I'm not "gross", and I'm also not "Schmidt". I know how to take a pee without my wife worrying that I'll leave drops around the toilet bowl.

"Schmidt", Now that was a good movie!!!!

Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:04:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...


Anybody find this assertion from the above article odd and not credible:

"Development plans include the construction of software houses and high-tech companies, which will employ kollel wives at high salaries..."

Really!!!??? High tech firms like Microsoft, IBM, Intel, and other high-tech Israeli companies that may be persuaded to open offices and plants in this new community are going to pay these young Kollel wives the big-bucks?? What skills do they have??
They have been raised in homes that shun secular/trade education.

Sheker Shakronus! or for you Yeshiva guys just starting your new English Berlitz course at the Machon L'Parnassah in Boro Park, it's called "bullshit".

Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are very unfair to jewish women who nobly take on more than their share - and who do face reality in the workforce.

at least the smart ones do. The others work in stores, and business is where the money is, not "professions" as a rule.

The professionals would rather be clients.

UOJ, baki that he is, knows the correct reading is kodmin.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:26:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

anon 9:26 PM

What in the world are you talking about? Can you read? Or are you also enrolled in the Reading Comprehension Course over at Machon L'Parnassah in Boro Park?

Who criticized the self-sacrifice and valor of Jewish wives? Not I!

I was questioning the "high-paying " salaries that will be paid by these High-Tech companies to these young Kollel wives who (correct me if I'm wrong) have no marketable skills.

If you believe this will happen, then I have a Bridge in Brooklyn I'd like you to look at for Investment. It's a "can't miss" opportunity.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Detective said...

Funny how the illiterate commentators are usually anonymous.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Not funny, detective; shameful.

Your(and mine)Yeshiva dollars hard at work.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:59:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

You're so right, Booger.
Who in the world is going to give high paying jobs tp people who have no skills, male or female.
The rosh yeshivas are scam artists.
They KNOW it's bullshit, but this how they intend to market this new kollel, to get people to come, to hire their own shitty kids as the rosh kollelim.....
The Ponzi scheme just can never stop....

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:57:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

typos above, late at night and tired.

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

RE: The valor and self sacrifice of the wonderful Kollel wives and Jewish women in particular:

If the guys would be half the people these women are, Klal Yisroel would be much better off.

Friday, December 02, 2005 8:33:00 AM  
Anonymous yaakov said...


It is questionable if aniyei d'eretz yisroel have the same halacha like aniyei ircha.

I've seen such a psak once.

Friday, December 02, 2005 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...


Aniyei Eretz Yisroel are almonos, people in need of medical help.....,certainly helping someone buy a house so he can pioneer a new kollel would not fall into that category.

Charity begins at home, to me an anee living in your neighborhood takes precedence, unless of course you can help both.

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

which news paper is this from

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Mny fine upright Tzedokas in Eretz Yisroel.

Rabbi Meir Baal Haness is one of them.

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Giving money to this BS cause is hilarity not charity.

Friday, December 02, 2005 1:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Detective said...

The life and times of Farshtoonkena Yid:

He wrote funny songs around the clock
But now he suffers from writer’s block

The End

Friday, December 02, 2005 1:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Detective said...

"Newspaper" is one word. Oh, these anonymous posters...

Friday, December 02, 2005 1:25:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...


Friday, December 02, 2005 2:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

detective: my enlish an't to good,
yu most excuze mie sekont grad edukatione, yu highnes.Yu muzt be a prfesor or somethin.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a disgusting group of beggars

Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boogers. yes.

we pasken rov nashim are pikchos.

what a bad attitude you have.

as to uoj, so what if they create a public institution like your yeshiva and let the family have jobs. ponzi israel?

according to the irs as long as a non profit doesn't exclusively benefit one family, it's legitimate.

Why can't you fargin them what you would fargin comfortably for yourself.

UOJ, the "self made" man.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

It's difficult to debate with someone who is clueless.
Go to another melave malka, eat and drink and be merry.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Who made your fortune, uoj?

Who made you the little prince who can throw tantrums?

The yeshiva which you claim as representing all that is good and right is famous for its "hockers," fake frummies, frummer than thou.

You're not as frum as they are, but in your way, your white holy way, represent the best of their arrogrance and negativity.

"the facts, Ma'am." Nothing but

Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:34:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Fax me the facts, ma'am.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a putz who tells the truth.

and anyone who follows the uoj blog is stupid too.

Monday, December 05, 2005 2:27:00 AM  
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Isaac said...

Bad idea, thers no money for the existing shmendriks.

Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:51:00 PM  

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