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Monday, December 05, 2005

Will Yeshivas Avrohom Fruchthandler DBA Yeshiva Chaim Berlin Remove The Thief Englander Name Off The Yehiva K'tana Building ?

Millennium Partners to pay $121.4 million By Michael Gormley, The Associated Press

Millennium Partners will pay $121.4 million in "ill-gotten revenues," its founder Israel Englander will pay $30 million in civil penalties, and two management companies will pay $26.6 million under an agreement in a New York and federal investigation into market timing, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said Thursday.

That is the first major settlement involving a hedge fund for Spitzer and the Securities and Exchange Commission. They have been investigating similar market-timing schemes in mutual funds that benefit insiders at the expense of individual investors.


"Millennium developed multiple schemes that cost mutual fund investors tens of millions of dollars," Spitzer said. "Restitution will be made to investors who were harmed."


The complaint accused Millennium of taking ill-gotten profits of more than $100 million from 1999 to 2003, much of it from transactions structured to avoid mutual fund defenses to block market timing or to conceal Millennium's role.


"Today's action demonstrates the commission's commitment to prosecute vigorously all the wrongdoers involved in fraudulent market-timing practices, not just mutual fund managers and broker-dealers, but also the hedge funds and other entities that profited so handsomely from the fraud," said SEC Enforcement Division Director Linda Chatman Thomsen.


Market timing of mutual funds, which involves rapid in-and-out trades, is not illegal but is prohibited by many funds because it can put ordinary shareholders at a disadvantage by diluting the value of their shares. Many of the cases brought by Spitzer and the SEC have targeted mutual fund companies that allowed favored clients such as hedge funds to engage in market timing.


"Millennium is pleased to have reached a comprehensive resolution of the investigations regarding mutual fund trading in years prior to 2004," Millennium spokesman Thomas Daly said. "We agreed to these civil settlements, in which we neither admitted nor denied the various allegations, as a business decision in order to put this matter behind us and to allow us to concentrate on our investments. Today, we have stronger financials and stronger controls, including the supervision of the former general counsel of the SEC, than ever."


Millennium has $5.4 billion under management, 20% more than in 2003.


Millennium was also accused of using false addresses and renting post office boxes to avoid detection by mutual funds, Spitzer said. Employees also posed as long-term investors, allowing the company access to "subaccounts" that kept Millennium's identity secret.


Spitzer claims the company was able to camouflage as much as $19 billion in market-timing activity.


Terence Feeney, Millennium's chief operating officer, will pay $2 million, and its general counsel, Fred Stone, will pay $25,000 in penalties. Both will be banned from mutual fund trading for three years.



Israel Englander has been in trouble with the law for the last thirty years.
Avrohom Fruchthandler is in bed with this guy, and certainly is aware that the yeshiva has received money from "ill- gotten revenues."
Avrohom, do you have the balls to remove the name from your building, where kids come to learn Torah and it's values? Or money is money regardless of the source?
Tell me Avrumy, are you going to send the message to our children that as long as you give money to your yeshiva, it's ok to steal and cheat?
We're watching, you have a chance to do the right thing.
MR. FRUCHTHANDLER, TAKE DOWN THIS THIEF'S NAME FROM THE YESHIVA BUILDING TODAY!

UOJ

117 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

c'mon avrumy, jts took down a big donor's name when he went to prison.

What would Rav Hutner say?

(how much did the yeshiva make?)

Monday, December 05, 2005 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous shmuck said...

fruchtandler was involved with drug monies a few years ago and know what it means to have your name in the paper

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous hutnerism said...

as long as you give to them they do not give a shi..............

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cb has always been one of the most extreme of the fake frum so called mussar yeshivas.

Expecting them to take down a name is unrealistic.

However, if uoj would give them several million dollars, rabbi fruchthandler will certainly visit uoj's house and uoj can boast that he visited fruchthandler's.

Isn't this more important?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:59:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Been there, done that.Just another fat-ass shnorrer knocking on my door.

Next time he'll be sorry he came if the name is still on the building.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need to create a new moisad: the uoj institute for truth, justice, peace, freedom and the "reformed" frum american jewish way (in the image of uoj).

But, first, we need to find an unqualified, bearded, fat assed schnorrerrr to raise the funds, who we can count on to line his own pockets along the way. The dedication will be glorious. Hope to see you there.

Has anyone seen Pinky?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Hey, you see the article in the paper yesterday about Bernie Kahn? Caught with his hand in the HASC cookie jar. Married off his daughter with the funds.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

I don't know how anyone can take Chaim Berlin seriously. Doesn't everyone know that Aharon Schechter is an am haaretz and if you're not a CB family or loaded with gelt then you're a piece of crap - no better than the Iranians that CB pretended to care about. I don't know of any "rosh yeshiva" with a bigger ego...and the truth is his followers all have IQs of 50.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hasc has turned into a sewer of corruption.
This is exactly what happens when there is no accountability.
What a damn shame, it started as such a great organization.
Our family stopped supporting them eight years ago, when they refused to make available their books to a cpa for an audit.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:15:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Real shame about HASC. Wonder if we'll be seeing the "family" on Page-1 Daily News with their jackets over their faces?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UOJ's family is honest because they are subjected to audits.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:46:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

BTW, UO; are there any clean, kosher organizations today with properly kept books documenting where every cent goes?

How about a blog on this topic, naming names?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those which are chartered as synagogues are not required by law to do so.

Abuses aside, petty people are critical.

Petty and self righteous.

Our Family.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just for information: Although not required to have certified audits, all organizations, including religious organizations, which have 501-c-3 tax exemption, are required to file a 990 Information Return annually. These are available through the IRS to the public

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:49:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 3:49,
Do you have any idea how many sets of books these guys keep?
Most of the privately owned yeshivas and organizations are working off pocket held note-pads.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:58:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Most synagogues, (not shuls) have boards and are monitored very closely by them.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:59:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 2:46,
We are audited every day by the Big Guy!

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:00:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Gross,
You're absolutely right.
Hutner was at the very least a genius and had charisma.
There's no bigger shmuck that walks Coney Island Av. than Aron Schachter.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:03:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

The organizations that keep books and are audited are the non-religious ones and the OU.
They caught the WJC and Israel Singer stealing millions and sending it off to Switzerland.
He's lucky Bronfman covered for him, his beany ass would be in jail by now.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were NOT stealing millions. This was sruly's retirement package and if you're a shammos to someone as exalted and important as uoj, you deserve a professional retirement package.

No?

I do.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to the accountant above, obviously every organization, including religious corporations have to file a 990, but synagogues don't have to itemize expenses etc. which was the subject of a previous post.

Rav Hutner had an overbloated ego. When he made his grand entrance on simchas torah they would sing "v'nisgav Hashem levado"

that melody comes to mind whenever i log onto uoj.

beany

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:31:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 4:28,
"Sruly" was stealing his ass off, and nobody but Bronfman knew about it, not the IRS, not the auditors.
His ass was in deep kaka, Bronfman hushed it up, fired everyone around the accounting dept, paid a 5 million dollar fine to the IRS( BIG SECRET-EXCEPT FOR ME) and bought off a few witnesses.
I know!!!!!!

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:29:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Is that the same sruly singer that "fought" for reparations for the holocaust survivors?

BTW;

That's fascinating stuff about Bronfman and the singer kaka. Why don't you blog it?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:23:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

what did sruly do with the money?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:24:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Booger,
That's the same gofer.
He loves to hang around money and powerful people.
Good question about the money, it's been hushed up.
Some reliable sources say he transferred it to his brother in-law who runs a crooked nursing home business in Toronto, George Kuhl.
The Kuhl family and it's dead patriarch,were & are notorious criminals.
I have a post about the "SLUSH-HUSH FUND" of the WJC that I eventually will get to.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:42:00 PM  
Blogger Yungerman said...

What's the story with Kuhl? I thought they were good guys.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the season of slush, one can only say hush.

good night moon.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:18:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Old man Kuhl, self-appointed Doctor Kuhl, kept going bankrupt ALL his life with haimishe money for non-existent investments.
He was also a Kapo-Nazi collaborator, beating the shit out of fellow Jews to save himself.
Deep Nose says he was especially ruthless, beyond the call of duty and had KILLED many Jews.
Nice Guy- may he ROT in Hell, "Her Doctor."

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oy vei.

this is terrible, if true.

If so, however, one must wonder, uoj, is there cruelty behind every great and small fortune? Could be...

Like this blog...

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:17:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Yeah, I beat the crap out of my computer every day.
Michael Dell called me the other day begging me to stop my violent computer-abuse.
He called me a HP-collaborator, Compaq Kike,Toshiba-Gook.....

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:33:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

where is sruly singer now? I remember him from Forest Hills, davening in Leifer's Shul, right off Yellowstone, together with some of the other big knockers;
like Fishoff, Ganger, Kuhl, et, al.

Remember that Kuhl lost a son in a car accident, many years ago.

Look forward to seeing the blog on the slush-hush fund. Let it rip.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:57:00 PM  
Anonymous SomethingToPonder said...

T'was the night of the geulah,
and in every single shteibel,
sounds of Torah could be heard,
coming from every kind of Yeidel.

This one in English,
some in Hebrew, some in Yiddish,
some saying pshat,
and some saying chiddush.

And up in shomayim,
the Aibishter decreed,
"The time has come
for My children to be freed.

Rouse the Mashiach
from his heavenly berth,
have him get in his chariot
and head down to Earth."

The Moshiach got dressed,
and with a heart full of glee,
went down to the Earth, and entered
the first shteibel he did see.

"I'm the Moshiach,
Hashem has heard your plea,
your geulah has come,
it is time to go free!"

They all stopped their learning,
this was quite a surprise,
And they looked at him carefully
with piercing sharp eyes.

"He's not the Mashiach!"
said one with a grin,
"Just look at his hat,
at the pinches and brim!"

"That's right!", cried another
with a grimace and a frown,
"Whoever heard of Mashiach
with a brim that is down?!"

"Well", thought Mashiach,
"If that is the rule,
I'll turn my brim up
before I go to the next shule!"

So he walked on right over
to the next shule in town,
confident to be accepted
since his brim was no longer down.

"I'm the Mashiach!", he cried
as he began to enter.
But the Jews there wanted to know first,
if he was left, right, or center.

"Your clothes are so black!"
they cried out in a fright.
"You can't be Mashiach --
you're much too far right!

If you want to be Mashiach,
you must be properly outfitted."
So they replaced his black hat
with a kipa that was knitted.

Wearing his new kipa,
Mashiach went out and he said,
"No difference to me
what I wear on my head."

So he went to the next shule,
for his mission was dear,
But he was getting a bit frustrated
with the Yidden down here.

"I'm the Mashiach!" he cried,
and they all stopped to stare.
And a complete eerie stillness
filled up the air.

"You're the Mashiach?!
Just imagine that.
Whoever heard of Mashiach
without a black hat?!"

"But I do have a hat!"
the Mashiach then said.
So he pulled it right out
and plunked it down on his head.

Then the Shule started laughing,
and one said, "Where's your kop?
You can't have Mashiach
with a brim that is up!

If you want to be Mashiach,
and be accepted in this town,
put some pinches in your hat,
and turn that brim down!"

Mashiach walked out and said,
"I guess my time hasn't really come,
I'll just have to return
to where I came from.

So he went to his chariot,
but as he began to enter,
all sorts of Jews appeared,
from left, right, and center.

"Please wait, do not leave,
it's all THEIR fault!" they said
And they pointed to each other,
and to what was on each other's head.

Mashiach just looked sad,
and said, "You don't understand."
And then started up his chariot
to get out of this land.

"Yes, it's very wonderful,
that all of you learn Torah,
But you seem to have forgotten,
a crucial part of our mesorah."

"What does he mean?
What's he talking about?"
And they all looked bewildered,
and all began to shout.

Mashiach looked back and answered,
"The first place to start,
is to shut up your mouths,
and open up your heart.

To each of you, certain Yidden
seem too frum or too frei
but ALL Yidden are beloved,
in the Aibeshter's eye."

And on his way up he shouted,
"If you want me to come,
try working a little harder
on some ahavas chinam."

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

any honest tzadakah organizations out there? please give me hope,
name 5.desperate for some hope

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great poem.It should be read and reread.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The poem should be taken to heart and turned into action, not just read. I'm sick and tired of my neighbors not allowing their kids to play with mine, or not associating with me because I don't cover my hair and my kids don't go to a frummie yeshiva. What makes them any better than me? NOTHING

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous R' Itcha Undystainer said...

Reb Aron Shechter is a true chacham and a good hearted guy. He is bigger than R'Hutner. He doesnt have the identity crisis that R" Hutner did

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did the lubavitcher rebbe write those verses?

uoj and michael dell, uoj and frank sinatra, uoj and the leading politicians of the yeshiva world.

sing those praises -

yehallelukha pikha - why wait for anyone else?

As to the truth of the cruelty this blog inflicts, you are blind to it smothered in your own self satisfaction.

Gloating over human humiliation is no mitzvah. If it is, rabbi old fashioned real kind, show me the sources which justify your nivul cruelty? Novel they are.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THe poem is wrong in one aspect.
Do you think for one moment Moshiach would be swayed by every
holierthanthou yahoo who thinks he knows better than moshiach,you are surely mistaken.He will confront the hypocrisy.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:58:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Beautiful poem, Thankyou for gracing us with this post.

How do you define cruel, and how low have you sunk that the REAL cruel people, according to you, should get a pass?

We are the cruel-ee, not the cruel-er.
The cruel people according to you should revel in their criminal behavior, without a word said?

You're messed up buddy, we're the good guys, you got it backwards.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

R' Itcha Fruit Of THe Loom,

Aron Schachter at the most, should be behind the counter at Eichlers.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Mashiach aint what it has been cranked up to be.

You guys are fooling yourself if you think there's going to be a guy riding into Boro Park or Crown Heights on a donkey.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems you have so much hatred in your heart it's blinding you to the whole point of the poem.

It's not about Mashiach, per se, if he even exists. It's not about how he will arrive, if he arrives, it's how we as Jews put so much emphasis on the outside, and we judge everyone by the size of their kippah or hat brim and turn a blind eye to what's inside, which is really what counts. At the end of the day if you wear a shtreimel or bekeshe on shabbos but you're full of shit inside, you're just that--full of shit.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous seeker said...

UOJ, Whats your view of Moshiach?
Also, is anon. 10:58 wrong?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crullers are french.

I look to Moshe Rabbeinu as my model. He was anav mikol adam and while he and other true tzaddikim are ALWAYS misrachek from gezel, he would not condone this blog. And he was a good guy, wouldn't you agree?

He defended the jewish people even at their lowest state.

You choose not to give anything to corrupt meshulachim, dishonest people some are. But, the Rambam, your greatest philosopher, paskens that it's a mitzvah to give tzedakah when we don't want to. Kofin oso, the gemara says. Why? Becuz most people want to do the right things.

Rather than rose colored, your glasses are less than half full, blackened with hate.

Sonei kol davar ra, you'll say. I'm a tzaddik. The real thing. Let them lick my boots.

Are you the donkey in boro park?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, I just wanna know one thing UOJ, who died and left you judge and jury?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous seeker said...

We can not sit back and allow the
hypocrits to teach us or our children the right path.Also,anon.12:08 you should not be talking for moshe rabbenu.
This is conceit at its highest.
We must fight against the frauds, fakes, charletons and fakers.But be smart doing it.These people will rob you and your children blind.If you want to be stupid thats your bussiness,but don't ask me to be.The Torah doesn't command us to be stupid,or patsies for a group of lowlifes trying to dictate to others what is right when we know its false.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me be clear, uoj. You will have to answer for promoting lashon hara, rechilus and motzi shem ra on the internet. Since you are a baki in everything, especially in matters of Halaka, you know that lashon hara refers specifically to things which are true.

What is the rationale for the Torah forbidding us to spit on your inferiors, people who would never be invited to your home or Daddy's, and to whom you have more than a few words to say before you kick them out? Why aren't the good guys allowed to act this way?

Becuz as the Chazon Ish said, we don't know how to give tochacha - and this sly, anonymous, hidden approach is less than perfect. Do you agree?

Where is Meir Kahane when we need him? He would unleash a thousand rats on the yeshiva ketana building to make his point. That would be great, no?

No.

I may be all mixed up, but this I know: at the end of time the Ruler of the Universe, the unmasker of all phonies, will wonder where you and Iyov were when the world was created (and according to the Midrash, at least, Iyov was richer than your family.

Iyov was silent despite the obvious wrongs he witnessed and endured. That's sometimes the test.

I should practice what I preach.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

I get the poem, you misunderstood my comment.
I was responding to the "possibility" raised by anon, regarding Moshiach confronting the good or bad guys.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 12:48, Here's the way it works.
I write a blog, you can:
1-Read it
2-Not read it
3-Agree
4-Disagree
5-Curse me out
6-Praise me
Or anything & everything in between.

ALL MY LOVE

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we should say thank you when the robbers steal our money?What an idiotic philosophy.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Seeker,

YOU DA MAN!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon,12:08,

You have to be ZOCHEH to give your money to the right people.
Like your son in-law......

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:25:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon,12:22,
YOU DA MAN TOO!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:26:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 12:08,

No, I'm the donkey in.......,used to be a big macher in the Frum world, then getting sick & tired of watching ALL the sick Jews pimping our religion.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:30:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 12:08,

When my time is up, I'm going to have to answer FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH TO PUT THESE GUYS OUT OF BUSINESS.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This dude steals money, and gets Kovod by putting his name on a yeshiva building? Im sure you would be happy to invest your hard earned cash , and find out it was stolen from you. Not only that ,but the charleton had the audacity to use your money to further his own honor. what a great guy? A pillar of society.Hes a candidate for the nobel prize.Its a disgrace. Lets call it for what it is.Please

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:35:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

What I do on the internet is imperfect.

In a perfect world, the PEOPLE en masse would rise up and throw these minuvalim out on their asses.

I figure that if I can get enough people angry, the process would begin.

I am telling you that this blog is making a difference, a big difference.

The people without yiras Shomayim, which there are plenty of, have someone and this information to fear.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dude should have given the money anonymously. It would have lessened the chillul. But no, he has to plaster his name on the building.very odd,indeed.Its frigtening that chuzpa displayed in public believeing he is above the law. No shame.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:42:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon, 12:35,
Thankyou-YOU GET IT, EXACTLY.

How would you feel knowing you were bilked out of money by this guy and it wound up in Fruchthandler's lap?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous seeker said...

What about the victims of the fraud?
Those people nobody thinks about. The people investing for retirement.
They don't count. As long as a charleton gets his honor. These people feed on the honor. The investors mean nothing to you. I guess you have money to lose, but the majority of us can't afford that luxury.If you love the charletons,liars,honor feeders than
perhapes you can defend them, but normal people shouldn't. Yea, we work for a living. A very novel concept, work.In some circles its a dirty word, but to me its an honorable word.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

None of us does enough.

A donkey's work is never done.

I know facts I shouldn't know first hand and can relate to your feelings of outrage.

I guess I'm old fashioned, of the old school. The Torah way is to distance oneself from evil.

You have your fans and missionary zeal. You are tired of pimping.

I understand.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:56:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Seeker,

Where were you all my life?

Is it so difficult to understand that we want REAL ehrliche guys as the heads of our community???

What's wrong with you, you sound like the "people" who say we need to reason with and understand the terrorists.
A F***** crook is a crook, get rid of the bastards.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:58:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Seeker,
One day I'll get into the Mashiach thing.
It's late at night, I'm afraid the words may not come out right.
It's NOT the conventional view, I'll tell you that.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem, uoj, is that everyone has something to hide. None are perfect. The donkeys who follow gedoilim are fulfilling a mitzvah even if they're donkeys. Suckers who support charlatans are blameless. Can you think of anyone who doesn't have clay feet? I'm not suggesting moral relativism is a virtue: call a spade a spade, are you sure you aren't using Toireh as a kardom lachpor bah. You're enjoying this.

As silly as hasidism may seem to you and me, in an age when the jewish people is so fractured, can we afford to dismiss the herd? You aren't changing their society. Does Jewish leadership require a vow of poverty? If Jewish professionals running federations make hundreds of thousands of dollars, does this bother you too? If so, you are pure and should donate all of your family's wealth to soup kitchens. Take a vow of poverty and your son in law will expect less.

I am not defending fakes. I despise them, too. I have been very open with a few of them, but unlike you, I've apologized after being pogea their kavod. You make no apologies.

I'm not certain anyone can be so self confident (unless they are very rich, in which case, uoj knows, they expect to be told they're right anyway) but the Master of the Universe, Elokim, Middat ha-din, is straighter than any of us can imagine, and whatever your motives, you'd best be careful. Don't rush to judgement. They can do teshuvah, but the damage your blog inflicts cannot easily be undone.

So, are you right?

Of course you are.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Maimer on Shushan Purim said...

UOJ,

Eichler's? I think you're mistaken! Schachter should be behind the counter at Sweet Choice :)

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:43:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

so tell us about sruly singer. where is he now and what is he doing?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Lakewood Yid said...

Subject: elections

In reaction to the large show of support for the non-endorsed
candidates in the past election, Lakewood schools will be mailing out
Election Disclosure Forms to all parents within the next week. The forms
must be filled out, showing which candidates each parent voted for, and
returned to the school office by Tes Zayin Cheshvan (November 18). Any
parent who did not vote for the endorsed candidates must call the Vaad
office to set up an appointment to get an ishur from an approved askan
before their Disclosure Forms will be accepted. A list of approved
askanim will be provided.

NO CHILD WILL BE ALLOWED IN SCHOOL AFTER TES ZAYIN CHESHVAN
(NOVEMBER 18) WITHOUT A DISCLOSURE FORM.

We wish to assure you that these takanos were not arrived at
lightly, but rather after much careful deliberation with many askanim,
heads of mosdos, developers, and other interested parties. The chosheve
Lakewood parents surely understand the grave importance of this issue
for us, for our children, and for future generations, and are expected
to fully cooperate with these takanos.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the last post. The Vaad in Lakewood is certainly capable of doing this.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:12:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

screw the vaad. bring back the Internet.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's NOT the vaad, it's the Mafia.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Booger,

Singer is "being Kept" in a Manhattan apt. owned by Bronfman.
He is Bronfman's boy by "civil union".
He was last seen at the Pope's funeral, and was in South America representing the WJC.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

can someone verify why one yeshiva in lkwd is not conforming with the vaad? mipi hashmua this guy mandelbaum is going to passaic for hadrocho and not shtelling tzu to the lakewood vaad.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Incredible!

Where do you daven on Shabbos, sruly? I bet probably at Marc Schneir's place? You guys have a lot in common.

Sruly, you turned into a gigolo! Make sure bronfy uses vaseline or KY on that skinny tuchis of yours.

Did you wear a red yarmulke at the Pope's levaya? Or at the very least Red Prado Loafers like the current Pope Benedictine wears. Ya gotta style when you're among the machers, sruly!

You piece of shit! You? are the "spokesman" for Holocaust Survivors getting reparations.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Sruly Singer is an ass wipe for many years, guess who his biggest defender was when he got caught with the stolen numbered account in Switzerland????
Ready???
Nosson Sherman.
He wrote a piece on Cross-Currents defending him.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous asher engel said...

Mikva,
Go back under the water-Mandelbaum is just playing on ppls minds-he is living off the hype of his new school by denying anyone without money or a well known name. This is currently one of the bigger problems in Lakewood- Holier than thou- each tuchis needs to feel that his school is best--when all he is is a farshtoonkina guy working for a contractor trying to keep up with his caddy payments.
swallow your pride and accept people based on the child not who has a wealthier grandparent willing to stuff singles in your belt!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Nossen Scherman?! Figures. Did he get a Cut from Bronfy? Probably a donation to ArtScroll.

Why the Hell doesn't he defend Jonathan Pollard?

Answer: No GELT in it.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Hey mikva;

If you wanna stuff singles into a belt, come with me. I'll take you to Scores!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

you get more bang for the singles in lakewood

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Mikva; You really been underwater too kong.

No you don't. They wear steel garters.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

not the lakewood vaybalach i know!!! ;-)

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous KUTLER said...

is there a blog on lakewood school issues? This needs its own blog or at least its own post-there is so much to be said/contributed...

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

Post it all here!! This is a tell-all blog.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:00:00 PM  
Anonymous asher engel said...

let it roll guys- Lets expose these fakers that are living off the excitement of turning good people away from their schools due to lack of wealth and yichus!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:29:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

and the Internet!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:31:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Asher Engel,
We got Alzheimers Elya Svei And Smiling Shmuel and of course Gangster Lipa to thank for showing the younger bastards how to create ELITE DREK KIDS YESHIVAS.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:52:00 PM  
Anonymous yossel the greek said...

Banging a lakewood vaybele, is like banging a corpse during the tahara.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:14:00 PM  
Anonymous asher engel said...

and add stern from passaic for helping his close talmid mandelbaum and others. All they use these rabbis for is to shove the blame for not taking most of the kids-the classic reason they are giving is that "they gave a "godol" the list of applicants and he chose...... BS on a platter!!!! If this is true then every so called godol will have to answer for this-they are all corrupt!!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:16:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

not the ones i know-they are better than any porn star-u need to know where to look-obviously if you go to the co-op u will have dead fish --start hunting---they are around and available!!! ;-)
SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE VAYBELACH-THEIR KOLLEL HUSBANDS SAY EVERYTHING THEY WANT IS ASSUR-AS LONG AS THE HUSBAND GETS OFF IN 30 SECONDS THEY ARE HAPPY!!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:20:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Hey mikva;

You got a very vivid imagination.

That water iz tzu heis. Take a cold shower.

Next, you'll be telling us about some popular Internet cafe on Clifton.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:26:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

booger,
I have names of the vaybelach!! If there is any way of posting it without exposing them-i will!
Think about it-About once a year you hear about a divorce over a spouse cheating-ever think how many are not getting busted????

this is a problem in every city-eeer hatoirah vihakidoisha lakevood is no diff.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:32:00 PM  
Anonymous bruce said...

hey Mikva,
Put the names in BMG locker# 247

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:38:00 PM  
Anonymous yossel the greek said...

OK, u convinced me.
Give me three good names and numbers. If you're wrong, I'll go back to the corpses.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Godol my ass, zeh hakoton GODOL yiyeh!!!!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:43:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Sorry, I'm not buying. These vaybelech are straight. Now if you're telling me about guys visiting hookers, that's something else.

BTW, if you ARE involved in this and aiding/abetting, i.e; putting your shmekel where it doesn't belong, SHAME on you and I hope you get a mikva rash.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:43:00 PM  
Anonymous asher engel said...

How about girls schools and the drek that run them-look at what happened this year. Can you tell me the people without schools were bad people or just the average and the schools are all only after the crem de la crem????
How about the mafia running bais fayga? I will tell you one thing-if all this continues-lakewood will soon be the breeding ground for a new generation of kids off the derech-like no city has seen yet!!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:47:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

booger,
do some research and you will see that its not hookers causing divorce rather the husband cheating with another married woman-its no secret-it has happened countless times in the past 10 years. Not every vaibel is straight just like not every yingerman is straight!

BTW- Im only an observer-i got my rabainu tams on tight!!!

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:51:00 PM  
Anonymous the booger said...

Good boy.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:53:00 PM  
Anonymous mikva nayis said...

booger,
im a good boy now- trust me when i tell you been there DONE that!!!

Plenty of spouses out there cheating-not just horny husbands

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:55:00 PM  
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Anonymous the booger said...

UO;

You've got to set up a spam filter. Why did you remove the last one?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:52:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Sorry Boog,
Please re-post, I was trying to get rid of the hacker who tried to get in.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:07:00 PM  
Anonymous booger said...

That's OK, Just suggesting you put a filter back on to prevent the hackers from getting in.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

reb shmuel is a tsaddik. if you don't know him well, you have no right to cast aspersions on a gadol in chesed.

philadelphia is an elite institution. nothing wrong with that. the standards are high in limudei kodesh and chol. What's your problem?

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54:00 PM  
Anonymous eli mitnick said...

in lakewood area you just pick up an asbury park press and look in the classified section under escort service and there are 50 numbers to call and in 30 min. you are in business-i went once and met a lakewooder just finishing

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sins of individuals are legion, not confined to Lakewooders.

The purpose of uoj's mission is to unmask phony leaders who are dishonest and molesting his daughters.

Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:56:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anonymous defending Shmuel The Fool,

I know him really well, too well.
If he's a Tzaddik, I'm the Chofetz Chaim.

Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You do look like the Hafets Hayim.

Are you behind rebuilding his house in Monsey?

I thought so.

UOJ is moshiach.

Friday, December 09, 2005 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know him real well too, and not only in the context of fund raising. I know his family.

He's still more than fifty percent righteous. Can you claim to be more than fifty percent like the Chofetz Chaim?

And by the way, who bought your house? Should we say you are "kept" by Daddy?

UOJ doesn't understand that benefactors are expected to be gracious.

Friday, December 09, 2005 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as time goes on i get more and more the feeling that uoj, for all his boasting, is a twerp.

1800 u r a

Friday, December 09, 2005 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Uncoverer said...

CB is full of fakers, fuckers and smokers! Just check in the back courtyard!

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can u tell me what happened to the money and buildings when
Yeshiva bais shmuel closed its doors

did rabbis? horowitz and bittersfeld
return it to the holocaust people
that worked so hard for every penny,nickel and dime in the 50's
and 60's

Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:32:00 AM  

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