Sunday, July 24, 2005

The Enemy Within


We all read this in the Haggadah on Pesach.

Some read this at home, and many Orthodox Jews in America read this in some luxury hotel.

I have an interesting question; what percentage of Jews that spend Pesach at a hotel , have their kids on some sort of scholarship program at their schools?

Back to the ranch.

The cookie cutter formula, and one size fits all program espoused by the right wing yeshivas, is similar to a doctor prescribing aspirin for cancer.

"In every generation our enemies stand up against us with the intent to destroy us."

We have enemies without, and enemies within.

The enemies "without" are easy to detect, and therefore we can identify them and to some degree be on our guard.

All Muslims hate us and want to destroy every remnant of the Jews. That's a no brainer,except for the extreme lefties/secular Jews.

Regardless of all the public niceties the Christians (Catholics..) say about us, the fact is they believe we killed their Lord.
Richard Nixon's (private) taped conversation with Billy Graham, demonstrates that they are two-faced Jew haters. They are NOT the exception,they are the rule.
I have been out in the real world long enough to know that they tolerate us, at best,for the time being.History has taught me well.Under a confluence of certain circumstances,we can become scapegoats and dog meat again.Keep a suitcase packed and ready to go.

Any help the Jewish state received from Nixon was not because he loved the Jews, it was for HIS political gain and the strategic interests of the United States.

When we scrutinize the overwhelming success of Mel Gibson's recent movie The Passion, based on the killing of their Lord, we can not ignore the fact that the success was not because of the wonderful, gory special effects.
Pope John Paul's comments ,"that it is, as it was"confirms that his contradictory statement of non"collective responsibilty"was written for him, and read by a Pope who was no more than a brain dead figurehead and representative of a billion or so people that will never forgive us for our sin.

The enemy within is harder to identify and harder to do battle with.

On the left,the enemies are well disguised.
They come in the form of the WJC(World Jewish Congress),The Simon Weisenthal Center & The Kabballah Center(extreme left).

The Kabballah Center founded by the adulterous insurance con man Philip Berg(Gruberger) is the easiest one of the three above mentioned to distance ourselves from. There is nothing Jewish about his movement other than the hijacked writings of the Ari & Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai.

Berg was a philanderer and under investigation by the New York Insurance Department Fraud Division,when he took his girfriend(his present wife) to Israel,to steal the writings of his then wife's uncle, Asher Brandwein.

The charade as being a Jewish movement is pathetic, and the stroke which left him incapacitated, could not have come too soon.

Watching the recent taped interview of his wife and two sons from her, on 20/20,was real easy for me to confirm what I always knew about people, give the gullible a little hope and their brains dissolve totally. His particular group is composed of lost morons, druggies and high priced hookers.
How any normal, thinking, mildly rational person can not see through this scam is beyond belief.
Jimmy Swaggart redux!

Incidentally, Yitzhchok Adlerstein's input and insights were pathetically tepid and incoherent.
He is turning out to be another wannabee Jewish spokesman.It must be the California sun.
Well you do not speak for me or most intellectual Jews.Stick to your pollyana blogging.

The WJC led by Edgar Bronfman has cleverly put up Bronfman's gofer, Israel Singer, as the organization's front man. Singer who grew up orthodox,and wears a pope-like beany yarmulke, is nothing more than Bronfman's messenger boy.Nothing Singer does is without the instruction and at the behest of Bronfman.

Singer tainted with scandal recently of embezzling millions of dollars of public money, got Bronfman to cover this up with full restitution and more. The fact is Singer transferred millions of dollars of the public's money earmarked for the WJC, to a numbered Swiss account for his personal retirement fund.
All Bronfman's cover-up tactics to protect his lap-dog is futile.

This is Bronfman's way of saying thanks for all the years of carrying his briefcase and opening the door for him.You mean nothing to him or the Jewish world.
The WJC is Bronfman's personal piggy bank,and you, Singer, happen to be his piggy.

To Bronfman's credit,Birthright is a wonderful program instituted to assist Jewish kids explore their heritage.

The WJC otherwise has demeaned Judaism and has fraudulently represented themselves as a legitimate spokesgroup for Judaism.They are anything but.
Your kind words for the deceased Pope is another way of getting your name in the newspapers.
You are a worthless organization,composed of guys with nothing much left to do.
Hey, start shooting pool.

Nosson Sherman from Art Scroll should have his head examined for trying to assist you in covering up your embezzlement and your organization's pathetic reputation for scandal.
I guess there is money in it for him.

Anytime someone creates an organization because he needs a job,watch out!

The diminutive Marvin Hier did exactly that.
The major problem that I have with him is that he is the consumnate con man.
He created an entire religion around the Holocaust.
He has convinced thousands of wealthy Jews that the way to Heaven is through him.
Judaism begins and ends with a donation of consequence to HIS museum.
Where else can an ignoramus get a job that pays one million dollars annually plus an unlimited expense account?

Sure, they chase anti-semites, but his organization is run by charlatans and incompetents.
Abraham Cooper and Meyer May are the other two of the three stooges. The Keystone Cops of Judaism.

They have now decided that another museum is important to have in Israel.
Yad Vashem just does not cut it, so Moe,Larry & Curly have started a campaign to raise TWO HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS for a new CIRCUS in Israel.
The ambiance at Yad Vashem was just lacking.
Kofi Annan was really disappointed when he visited Yad Vashem,there were NOT enough baby shoes and gold teeth on display to suit him.

Midget Marvin, hoping to get an invite to the U.N.'s melave malka, decided just like that, to build another museum.
What a guy!

This guy is trouble,the public needs to monitor him big time.
A financial audit of this organization is long overdue.

In his eyes the Holocaust was an opportunity for him.
Jim Bakker,dyed hair and circumcised! ( & out of jail for now)
His Judaism is much ado about death and the wretched past, rather than focusing on life,the future of the Jews and the emotional/spiritual health of Judaism.
His obsession with death is opportunistic and profitable, and is a scam.

I will get to our enemies on the right in part two, coming soon to a computer near you.


Blogger Baltimoron said...

Reb Un-orthodox,

Thank you again for what you write.

I'm not sure that I get this blogging and commenting stuff, but I hope it's appropriate to encourage you to address questions that go further. You concentrate on our inadequate and immoral leadership. Why do we anoint them?

I know a shayne yid who works every day in a government office identifying theft and corruption. He's good at it and believes in it. At the same time he sends his sons to a yeshiva well known for financial shenanigans and irresponsibility. If you would ask him why he would say it's best for the kids, even though the place is hardly known for excellence. Of course it's all hashkafa and social pressure, which are after all significant. But if you would ask him why he accepts the situation or whether something can be done you'd get the well known shoulder shrug.

When I came to Baltimore there was a giant gathering for men about tznius. Yes, for men. The whole thing was built up to a high pitch. A "choshuve" rav reached a climax with a story about a woman who allowed herself to be dragged behind a horse rather than expose a bit of skin. Another thundered that addressing your friend's wife by her first name led to "plain, poshut, mamzerus." The most (publicly) influential man in the city insisted that it was inappropriate for men and women to converse socially at all. OK, that's fine, but hardly the cure for mamzerus. This was their way of handling what I found out later was an actual tragic case. As I was telling this back to a mixed table with some consternation, another beautiful Jew I know finally broke the tension by saying, "Ah, they're crazy."

These are two situations out of a million. One is about our own passivity, another about the nonsensical policies from above.
Who's actually crazy if we revere and follow the leaders you criticize? What are our weaknesses that led us to this point? And what actions are needed to influence our situation for the better?

Monday, July 25, 2005 1:51:00 AM  
Anonymous gross said...


"In public life here in Brooklyn, there is false testimony. We have merited, through blood and sweat and with the Almighty's help, to establish large Yeshivos for the boys and Bais Yaakova for the girls. And these schools produced students of whom all can be proud. But then someone comes and says that they are still incomplete. When the boys go out of the Yeshiva, they are still not finished -- they still need more studies: they still have to go to "Touro College" to be well rounded. That is the biggest false testimony against the Torah. The boys do not need such "completeness".
One is not allowed to be friends with them! One is not allowed to be partners with them! What will be with our children? From where will our great Torah leaders come? From Touro College they will not come! And mothers of Gedolei Torah will also not come from Touro College, because the Gemorah says that to merit children who will become Gedolei Yisroel, one has to have modesty. And modesty cannot be acquired in Touro College!"


Monday, July 25, 2005 3:43:00 AM  
Blogger David Kelsey said...

It is wonderful to see someone else upset about the Simon Wiesenthal Center. These morons call everyone and his gentile brother-in-law an anti-Semite as if this is going to help our cause.

Even in the shrill world of defense groups, these guys are awful.

The are Hassidic Fanatics of Holocaustism.

They must be condemned and discredited.


Monday, July 25, 2005 3:06:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hi Baltimoron,
You are really a smart guy,even for Baltimore.
Just Kidding!
Insightful points.
I intend to get into it in depth on my next post.
In short,all of us were brainwashed in yeshiva as little kids to trust these guys,no matter what they say or do.
So resistance to them comes ONLY after they already became leaders and after we wake up to the sad truth.
Then it gets almost impossible to get rid of them ,as we know.

Monday, July 25, 2005 3:37:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

When and where did Alzheimer Elya say this?

Monday, July 25, 2005 3:38:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

This has become their PERSONAL business,so the more they rant and rave the more money comes in.
They are a real group of imbecile clowns,except it aint funny.
Thanks for writing.

Monday, July 25, 2005 3:41:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...


Cut and paste this link into your browser:


See the last two paragraphs of this gibberish...it's quite funny, actually.

Monday, July 25, 2005 4:54:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

Sorry Un orthodox but I have to disagree with you. Yes there are a lot of anti semites among the Jews and the Goyim. I agree with you about most Jewish Organizations that do nothing except give their ideas about everything. But I strongly disagree with you about the previous pope. I think that he was as we say in Spanish a real " Mentsch" He didn't have to stick his neck out. He could have just let the status quo remain as it was. But he didn't. He actually asked for forgiveness. I think that he stands head and shoulders above most leaders. IIf there is such a thing as Olom Haboh, I honestly believe that he has his share of it.

Monday, July 25, 2005 5:48:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...


This man is Rosh Yeshiva? Like most of them he is against any sort of education, except what is found in the Yeshiva. Following a Rosh Yeshiva like this, is like following the Taliban. It will lead us back to the dark ages.

Monday, July 25, 2005 6:06:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Amazing craziness!
Wait until my next blog,I will go after him.
He has Alzheimers now,do you know when this speech was made?
It makes little difference actually,he always said this type of BS.

Monday, July 25, 2005 6:26:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

You are certainly entitled to your opinion about the Pope.
He met with Arafat seven times that I am aware of.
He encouraged the bogus bastard Palestinian movement.
In other words,he encouraged them to murder more Jews.
There is no REAL other agenda for these sub-humans.
So,he was a politician and said a few nice things about the Jews.
Do not be fooled.
I can tell by your writings you are very young.
Re:Elya Svei,please see my response to Gross.
He definitely is a major player against authentic Judaism.
Never in our history have the yeshivas been deluged with bums and good for nothings, than under Svei's watch.
We were always a proud people who were capable of taking care of ourselves until these guys turned Judaism into a WELFARE RELIGION.

Monday, July 25, 2005 6:34:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...


I just sent that link for "kicks." I kept it on file for something I was writing online a while back...I don't know when/where the speech occured.

Arguably, the Yeshiva world no longer takes him seriously, except for maybe a few die hard Philly boys. But, he was at one point considered quite the Godol; funny how Rosh HaYeshivas suddenly become "Rosh Klal Yisroel."

He is and always was a silly, silly man...Oh, and just to bust your ba**s a bit, you wrote:

He definitely is a major player against authentic Judaism.
Never in our history have the yeshivas been deluged with bums and good for nothings, than under Svei's watch.

So why is he on your A list? And please, put Shlomo Mandel where he belongs--I'm growing impatient, you haven't followed up!

Later ;)

Monday, July 25, 2005 7:00:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...


Hey Gross,
He is on the A list(shoteh) because he believes his own BS.

I have to rethink that now that you hit me where it hurts.

Re: Mandel,
Before he goes on the REAL bad guy list,I would need some solid info.
As of yet,Deep Nose has not given me any.

Got some?

Monday, July 25, 2005 7:16:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

Shlomo and Yaakov Mandel, sons of R' Manis Mandel ran the Yeshiva of Bklyn Boy's divisin to the ground. Countless boys were viciously beaten, myself included. I remember one of the most "horrible sins" committed by us "rebels" was wearing sneakers that were higher than one's ankle!

Yaakov was in charge of the elementary and conducted more of the beatings. He had a particular penchant for publicly pulling down young boys' pants and viciously beating their behinds.

Shlomo was busy running his "mesivta" but was a real animal too. As "Rosh HaYeshiva" it can be argued that he was the bigger monster for allowing his younger brother to ruin so many peoples lives.

Simply put, they were the Gestapo. I am enraged as I write this and I cannot forget the last time I was hit by one of the Mandels ; it was in the face, by Shlomo, after he summoned me to in front of a gathering of 50 students. I was completely innocent - completely. He publicly threw me out of Yeshiva and declared to the assembled students (7th & 8th grade) how happy he was to be M'kaim the Mitzvah of Chinuch.

I will never forgive Shlomo and cannot wait until his time is up and he will be forced to face the "ultimate grand jury."

Today, the brothers went "splitsville" and Shlomo kicked Yaakov out of the "Yeshiva" blaming him for its failure.

Rumor has it that a few years ago there were some people looking to file a class action lawsuit agains the bums. I don't know what became of it.

Monday, July 25, 2005 8:48:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

I'd hate to leave out Avrohom Raider - former principal of YOB who wouldn't dare send his own fine children to the boys school lest they suffer too. The last memory I have of Raider was his hulking, obese, sweaty figure, hovering over my skinny 13 year-old frame, repeatedly banging my head against a cinderblock wall.

Monday, July 25, 2005 8:53:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

I heard similar stories from other people,but was unable to get a first hand confirmation until now.

To hell with those SICKOS!!!

Monday, July 25, 2005 9:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must say that as a University educated successful professional "ba'al tshuva" (became "frum" in my early 20's; I am now in my early 50's), this stuff is freaky! Had I known about this stuff I never would have made the decision to be observant. I gave up a lot of physical and emotional comforts in order to be observant. I think this insane welfare judaism and anti-education outlook is giving me a serious mid life crisis. My Boro Park wife would be very upset to know that I am losing a lot of emunah. What is the cure? Set my own standards for myself?

Monday, July 25, 2005 10:15:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

Do not be fooled.
I can tell by your writings you are very young.

So, how young do you think that I am?

Monday, July 25, 2005 10:31:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

And by the way, how old are you?

Monday, July 25, 2005 10:32:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

I can tell by your writing that you are a bitter person. If you dont see and understand real kindness, as you seem not to. I think that the former pope was a terrific person. Maybe you should a bit about his history.

Monday, July 25, 2005 10:34:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

"So how young do you think I am?"

Avi, that question is a dead giveaway. You're young and I would guess in your late twenties. (Although you didn't ask me...)

So what can we really say about the Pope? That he didn't openly hate us? That he somewhat "apologized?" That he had a good PR machine?

Why is it that we Jews feel the need to get on our knees and kiss a** to any public figure that doesn't hate us? It is such a victim mentality - (always worrying about which celebrity is really Jewish and who refused to play ball on Shabbos...Oh we're suppose to look up to them? Gee thanks for not killing us!

Who cares if the Pope was "kind?" He was a POPE! The Papacy was legendary in its Jew-killing and practically invented the Jewish Ghetto!

The Pope should've begged us for forgiveness on behalf of all the POPES - forget Christianity in general! He should have been happy that we didn't spit in his face in retaliation for what the Nazi-like Vatican has meant to Jews for centuries. You seem like a sharp fellow, open your mind and read a little.

Monday, July 25, 2005 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

Who cares if the Pope was "kind?" He was a POPE! The Papacy was legendary in its Jew-killing and practically invented the Jewish Ghett!
Who cares what the other popes did? Every person is an individual. I dont ask to be forgiven for what Shabtai Tzvi did.
The Pope should've begged us for forgiveness I believe that he did that.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

May I suggest:

"The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican's Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism" by David I. Kertzer

A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair by Daniel Goldhagen

Look it up on Amazon.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous gross said...

I am not saying the late Pope was evil, but don't be so quick to call him terrific. In his "apology" he merely referenced what "some" members of past Roman Catholic Churches committed in the name of "truth." No mention of burnings at the stake...no direct mention of the Inquisition...No specifics...

It was at best a small step - a very small step.

You have a lot to learn about history. Once you educate yourself, you too will agree.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:16:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Gross said it better than I could have.
I'll bet you are a teenager.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:30:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

To anonymous poster,

I am ffb and struggling with the garbage spewed out in the name of Yiddishkeit.

Alot of the rosh yeshivas are just plain idiots,and alot are bad souls.

This is NOT the Judaism of the honest.

It has developed into a serious mental illness.

I am dead serious,the religion has been hijacked by crazies.

Chin up as best as you can.
Stay in touch.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Continued from above...........

Find yourself a comfort zone that you can live with.
Perhaps there is a friend in a similar situation that you can feel safe talking to.

It can be really difficult to get up in the morning living a lie.
Be honest with yourself and do the best you can.
That is all any of us can do.

If this is any comfort at all,there are many of us that can't believe what we bought into.

All the best.
I care.

Monday, July 25, 2005 11:57:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

I am ffb and struggling with the garbage spewed out in the name of Yiddishkeit.

Same here.

I am dead serious,the religion has been hijacked by crazies.

And now for the two JERKS, Yes you, who think that you know everything. I am 60 years old. Some teenager. Why am I so impressed with the Pope. Because when a Shaygitz does nothing at all, we say he is good. When someone like the Pope bends over backwards to be nice to the Jews, I think that he is a TZADDIK. And you guys are so impressed with yourselves that you look down upon him. You guys should be as good a person as he is. The man was so humble, he even asked to be buried in the ground, like a Jew.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...

I like being Jewish. I am even proud to be a Jew. But the running to shul 3 times a day, the shukkling, the longer and longer davening is gettting out of hand. Most of my family is Chassidish, my wife is a fanatic, I am the white sheep of the family. Take a look at my web site and be schocked

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Avi said...


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Classmate-Wearing-Yarlmuka said...

".....Meharsayich Umachrivayich Mimaich Yatzayu...."

Doesnt't it include a blogger who was given the good fortune to attend yeshiva (and not pay full tuition as mandated by the goyishe private schools) and then mocks and scorns those that gave him food and shelter both for his body and soul.

Think about it, Chodesh Eluly is coming...And then the Yom Hadin.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:55:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Certainly you mean K'BEN SHISHIM SHANA,because your points about the Pope are juvenile.

How could anyone that represents an institution that for one thousand years plus, has been directly responsible for crusades,inquisitions,holocausts,
blood libels, either by direct involvement or by deafening silence,be a good guy with some politically correct speeches?

Get a life!

Don't you understand by enouraging Arafat HE WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN MORE MURDER?

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:37:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

I assume you are bashing Gross.


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Classmate-Wearing_Yarlmuka said...

No, I was responding to YOU! Unfortuantely you have no hakaras hatov to those who benevolently gave you an opportunity to learn torah. Noone forced you to attend any yeshiva. Your parents presumably cajoled the hanhala to accept you. If you were not happy, then you should have left. Or blame your parents for haeving you attend any instititution that they chose to enroll you in.

But in our market economy, noone is forced to purchased any good or service. And the fact tht yeshivas are full to the rafters, is a sign that while you fauled (presumably because of personal deficincied readily on display to anyone who reads you posts/comments)others(myself included) have gained a lot.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:07:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Your JEWNGLISH language you use tells me alot about you.

Foist mit all,mine perents peid full gelt tuishion.
dets mine foist point.

Mine tzvaiter point iz,dat you a puts mit lekach.

Mine driter point iz dat i loined verrry gut toirah ven i vas in auschvits,oi,i mean yeshiva.

mine rebbes vere a chevra mishugoyim who all belong in tfisa.

mine letzer point is dat you vere not mine clessmate,becuz you spik vey to gut Jewnglish,i cen not understend vat you rite.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Classmate-Wearing_yarlmuka said...

It's self evident that you are the cause that the Yeshiva opportunity had no effect on you.

Like the shvartzes, its always the system thats at fault.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That was a funny post - I love you!

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Me said...

Classmate you are just too hot! In law school? Wow! You're the best! You wear your yarmulka too?! You are so brave! How did you get into lawschool? You must be brilliant. That is probably the reason you are so knowledgable.

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:51:00 PM  
Blogger Un-Orthodox Jew said...


Ah had a dream,
yes man, ah had a dream that all Jews saw the light,
Ah had a dream....
that Jews who learn by day, should work at night.....,
ah had a dream ...

en den I voke up mit a hedacke.

Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:34:00 AM  
Blogger Jew Speak said...

You can't confuse Judaism with Jews and Religion with Rabbis. The Torah is perfect, people are not.

Saturday, August 06, 2005 7:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Torah whose practitioners are so evil, needs to be scrutinized.

Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Barry said...

Marvin is looking for an invite to the Kofi's U.N.'s Melave Malka; heheh...How does that work? Does marvele bring the food and get some oil? or bring the Oil and get ah piece of kugel?

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:55:00 PM  
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