An Open Letter To Mordecai Tendler
I have no idea whether you are guilty or innocent of the many charges against you.
I do assume innocence,although the latest developments with the RCA causes me to pause.
I do not have a horse in this race.
I do not have a kugel in this oven.
I do not have a black hat on this head.
So for starters you need to know I hope you are innocent.
I did not say I hope you are" found "innocent,because the only thing you can be" found" is guilty.
You know what the score is.Either you are guilty or innocent,there is no gray area.
I do know what this fight with the RCA represents,and that makes me a nogaih b'dovor,because whatever the outcome of this matter, all streams of Orthodox Jewry will be affected.
Trying to avoid the well known cliche,I have come up with my own.
WHERE THERE IS CHOLENT,THERE IS HEARTBURN!
The above is a general rule that I learned throughout my own trials and tribulations that life offers. I sense that there is something here that does not quite meet the proverbial eye.
You have waited way too long to come out swinging.These rumors have been swirling around for years.
Why pick a fight with an adversary that you can not beat? You can NOT beat them!
They will destroy whatever is left of your reputation.
I am not saying you should not be defending yourself,but this Israeli bais din gimmick sounds and feels like camouflage and subterfuge.
I know Rabbi Shmuel Fried extremely well.He is the toain or attorney for the RCA.
A few things you must know about this guy.
HE IS THE SMARTEST AND SHREWDEST TOAIN ALIVE TODAY.
We speak often on business issues,especially when it comes to real estate.
He is unbeatable when his client is right,and never takes a case unless he is sure they are.
HE WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN ON THIS INTERCONTINENTAL BATTLE UNLESS HE IS ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT HE CAN WIN!
I know of your Toain Mittleman,he is out of his league.
Mordecai Tendler,
You are getting very bad advice.
Your ego will destroy you and your family.
This is my advice to you.
Give it up!
Have your respective representatives meet in private.
Let both sides come up with a pareve statement that is ambiguous.
Fried is a big mentsch,he will encourage a respectable settlement.
Mordecai,
You are in way over your head.
Your father and all your uncles will not be able to help you.
Fried will absolutely crush you!
SETTLE,SETTLE,SETTLE!
You are still the rabbi of your shul,if you proceed with this nonsense you will lose your job.
You will join Moshe Londinski in no man's land.
I hope you don't one day have to look at this blog,wishing that you should have listened to this anonymous blogger.
The problem is people do not listen to free advice,so send a check in my name to your local Tomchei Shabbos.
GIVE IT UP!
SAVE YOUR FAMILY FROM MORE GRIEF!SETTLE BEFORE YOUR LIFE WILL BECOME UNBEARABLE.
I do assume innocence,although the latest developments with the RCA causes me to pause.
I do not have a horse in this race.
I do not have a kugel in this oven.
I do not have a black hat on this head.
So for starters you need to know I hope you are innocent.
I did not say I hope you are" found "innocent,because the only thing you can be" found" is guilty.
You know what the score is.Either you are guilty or innocent,there is no gray area.
I do know what this fight with the RCA represents,and that makes me a nogaih b'dovor,because whatever the outcome of this matter, all streams of Orthodox Jewry will be affected.
Trying to avoid the well known cliche,I have come up with my own.
WHERE THERE IS CHOLENT,THERE IS HEARTBURN!
The above is a general rule that I learned throughout my own trials and tribulations that life offers. I sense that there is something here that does not quite meet the proverbial eye.
You have waited way too long to come out swinging.These rumors have been swirling around for years.
Why pick a fight with an adversary that you can not beat? You can NOT beat them!
They will destroy whatever is left of your reputation.
I am not saying you should not be defending yourself,but this Israeli bais din gimmick sounds and feels like camouflage and subterfuge.
I know Rabbi Shmuel Fried extremely well.He is the toain or attorney for the RCA.
A few things you must know about this guy.
HE IS THE SMARTEST AND SHREWDEST TOAIN ALIVE TODAY.
We speak often on business issues,especially when it comes to real estate.
He is unbeatable when his client is right,and never takes a case unless he is sure they are.
HE WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN ON THIS INTERCONTINENTAL BATTLE UNLESS HE IS ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT HE CAN WIN!
I know of your Toain Mittleman,he is out of his league.
Mordecai Tendler,
You are getting very bad advice.
Your ego will destroy you and your family.
This is my advice to you.
Give it up!
Have your respective representatives meet in private.
Let both sides come up with a pareve statement that is ambiguous.
Fried is a big mentsch,he will encourage a respectable settlement.
Mordecai,
You are in way over your head.
Your father and all your uncles will not be able to help you.
Fried will absolutely crush you!
SETTLE,SETTLE,SETTLE!
You are still the rabbi of your shul,if you proceed with this nonsense you will lose your job.
You will join Moshe Londinski in no man's land.
I hope you don't one day have to look at this blog,wishing that you should have listened to this anonymous blogger.
The problem is people do not listen to free advice,so send a check in my name to your local Tomchei Shabbos.
GIVE IT UP!
SAVE YOUR FAMILY FROM MORE GRIEF!SETTLE BEFORE YOUR LIFE WILL BECOME UNBEARABLE.
posted by Paul Mendlowitz | 12:05 AM
28 Comments:
In the same breath that you say you have no negius, you brag that SF consults with you no less than on a "regular basis" and that SF is "unbeatable".
Bemechilas kevodchem, that is a paradox in itself. As a preliminary matter, how good could SF be if he consults with a shana Upiraish on a regular basis.
Secondly, those of us who are Orthodox Jews and Gedolai Hador, know that one of the fundamentals to any Din Torah, is the issue of nemanus, believabilty.
Just because the RCA chose to disseminate slanderous information by means of the orthodox hating rag, the jewish week, does not mean that the information contained in that organ has any credibilty or reliability whatsoever.
I hope that the advice you give your clients or SF is of better quailty. Hanogaya Linyanainu, "ASYA BMAGAN MAGAN SHAVYA"
I don't know about the Tendler case, but the godolhadar is write that the Jewish Week is a indeed a terrible paper.
GH,aka one naive Jew,
SF does not get his info from the Jewish Week.
Calling names is just a sure sign that you do not have a clue how a man of the stature as SF gathers his info.
The Jewish Week is NOT the issue and neither is how Fried gets his info.
The issue is clearly, that fighting Fried is like just asking for a whupping,which he is sure to get.
Mark my words,MT better settle this issue before Fried takes off his gloves.
You heard it hear first.
This isn't the real Godol Hador. You can tell because when you click on the name, instead of bringing you to GH's profile, it brings you directly to GH's website. We have been banning this guy and deleting his comments. He just keeps finding new blogs to comment on.
Thank you OM, that's not me. You need to ban that guy.
Message to faker: Stop it you fool!
Tendler, has a solid name here in Monsey. I believe that few people ( who have any sense), want to start up with Tendler. Perhaps he should have been a little more careful when sitting with these women. Maybe leave the door a little bit open so no one can have any ridiculous isead. Who is testifying against him? A black cleaning lady? Some women with emotional problems? And as I understand it, the whole issue with Yeshiva University is that he went against the ruling of the Rav. His sin was possibly that he was trying to help some women who are Agunot. The whole law of Agunot smeels to high heaven about the unequality of the sexes. As soon as one rabbi finds a way out of a situation that will make it easier for an Agunoh ten other idiot rabbis will jump on the bandwagon yelling , NO, looking for Chumros. Meanwhile the man runs off to marry his paramour. Nice religion the idiot rabbis have made. And God looks down at this and probably laughs.
Avi,
If you know Tendler,urge him to get this behind him.
He can walk away with some dignity.
Fried,with the agreement of his clients,will be amenable to a settlement without any further damage.
JWB,
The best we can do is urge him to do what is right for him and his family.
I am utterly surprised that his father is not meeting with Fried right now.
It is NOT a sign of weakness to settle this issue without further damage.
The possibility exists that MT is no longer rational,that is why his family should step in.
I don't get you. You give many good reasons for thinking he is not innocent and then say maybe he is. There are two points-first-let him waive his rights from the confidentiality statement (I think JW suggested this). If someone spread lies about me, I would do my utmost to discredit them. But instead he settled. I also did not know black people can't be trusted (apparently they may be intimidated and then trusted though). Second-if he were a priest, all his defenders would be making fun of him and the Church.
Both Mordechai and his brother Aron in Hollwood have demonstrated they are not fit to be rabbinical leaders or community leaders. They have preyed on the vulnerable far too long.
What is it with this guy whistleblower. Is he normal. Where does he come off dragging MT's brother Aron into this. Now he is asserting that there is something wrong with Aron also? I know Aron quite well. What kind of jealous schmuck is this whistleblower. Next he is gonna say there is something wrong with me also. Godamn moron.
JWB,
You do make some interesting points.
NO RABBI SHOULD BE IN A POSITION THAT WOULD ENABLE HIM TO HARM PEOPLE.
He has kids, a wife,respected father,respected uncles and cousins etc.They too must be going through hell.
He must be held accountable for his behavior,I firmly believe that.
My advice to him is to settle this matter in private and without protracted litigation.
He must deal with the people that he may have hurt.(I am neutral,I only state as facts the issues I have first hand information on.)
My bigger point is he should get this behind him and move on without causing any MORE damage to himself and his family.
From what I am reading ( The Jewish Voice) I am getting the impression that this Rabbi Freid is not so brilliant and that Rabbi Mittelman, is more then up to the challange. Of course I could be wrong. Reading articles in a magazine is hardly the best way to get all the facts
anyone in trouble should contact fried,not mittelman.
fried has connections in law enforcement,the FBI,the D.A. etc...
he is not a guy to mess around with.
how do i know?I went up against him,did 2 years in jail(he got me out after 6 months.
he killed me then he helped me.
you don't want to cross this guy.he's an animal.
If Tendler & Mittelman take on Fried,they are crazy.
I used Fried on various big and small issues,he's a killer.
Tendler should crawl on his hands to fried and get out of this.
Fried will chew him up and spit him out if he molested women.
He is one wild and crazy guy.
Watch out Tendler,you aint seen nothing yet.
If I were you I would be kissing Frieds ass in Macys window to get out of this.
"Who is testifying against him? A black cleaning lady? "
There are more that ten women who claim he was guilty of sexual misconduct with them at one time or another.
Un-Orthodox -- you're letting a cancer take over your website. Personally I don't appreciate your self-righteous style, but you're just another yenta. When you allow the Jewish whistle guy into your website you are a yenta with a snake in the house.
Look, for example, how he turns the discussion from Tendler to Lanner, with a nice three card Monte deal, and all off a sudden he makes a connection between a proven case of child abuse and a totally unproven case of she said he said. That's his method. Get into bed with him and you won't believe the fleas yo'll find on yourself in the morning.
Remember, he is best friends with a crazy woman who claimed on national television that her father raped her five times and made her eat the five babies. She told Oprah, on camera, that half the Jews of Chicago are Satan worshippers. Now wtch a connection -- every single thing this blower puts on, she puts on, in her couple of websites and her email list.
You say you don't have a horse in this race? Maybe. But you sure got a lot of horseshit.
Tehillimzugger,
Your point is well taken.
So far,the only deleted posts by me were outright profanities.
If you hate JWB,blast him.Point out for all to see what you think about his stuff.
If I start deleting ideas that I do not agree with,than I am no better than most other Jewish bloggers.
As you can see I kept ALL the posts including yours blasting me & calling me all kinds of names.
I get your point,but for now,I will permit all posts except outright profane language.
Thanks for writing!
Self Righteous Yenta
WANT TO KNOW WHY THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF UNQUALIFIED GUYS WASTING THEIR TIME IN YESHIVA, RAPING THEIR PARENTS AND IN-LAWS? WHO IS THAT STILL BLASTS COLLEGE - EVEN PATHETIC TOURO "COLLEGE"?
"In public life here in Brooklyn, there is false testimony. We have merited, through blood and sweat and with the Almighty's help, to establish large Yeshivos for the boys and Bais Yaakova for the girls. And these schools produced students of whom all can be proud. But then someone comes and says that they are still incomplete. When the boys go out of the Yeshiva, they are still not finished -- they still need more studies: they still have to go to "Touro College" to be well rounded. That is the biggest false testimony against the Torah. The boys do not need such "completeness".
One is not allowed to be friends with them! One is not allowed to be partners with them! What will be with our children? From where will our great Torah leaders come? From Touro College they will not come! And mothers of Gedolei Torah will also not come from Touro College, because the Gemorah says that to merit children who will become Gedolei Yisroel, one has to have modesty. And modesty cannot be acquired in Touro College!" –R’ ELYA SVEI
I have copied the above comment into the most recent post. I accidentally placed it here.
gross-Where can I verify this letter?
First, it's interesting that JWB participates here when he doesn't allow comments on his own site.
Shmendrick.
Second, just because your toan is a sharpie, it doesn't mean Tendler did anything wrong.
If you knew the women involved, as I do, you would know why Tendler's shul and community united around him.
Basically, the womens' credibility is about as low as Vicki's - zero.
Tendler should get this behind him before they hang him.
According to honest people close to the non publicized info.,he has issues that will definitely bring lots of shame to his family.
I am neutral. As an eitza tova,it is always a good idea to get unpleasantness out of your life asap.
Life is way too short to speculate on what may be coming.
If he has such issues, he has no business being a rabbi. JWB Blows-Any man who ever is alleged to have slept with a prostitute could get away with it-because if the prostitute says he slept with her-she has no credibility.
Sorry, but to say that SF only takes cases when he knows they are right is, well, wrong. I can't convince you of how wrong he is, but I know he took the wrong side of a case (because they had money and Chashivus on their side as well) and his approach in court was dishonest, perverse (not sexually, but in the worse way - intellectually), and distorted. Just the fact that he is representing someone is, to me, enough to question the side he is taking.
JWG,
I certainly do not know every single case Fried takes,nor can I possibly know what he feels is the right side of a case when there is conflicting evidence.
In this case,which is of international importance for batei din in general,and an entire rabbinical organization vs. an important rabbinical family,knowing Fried the way I do,he NEVER would have taken this case unless he was absolutely certain he would prevail.
SF may be very shrewd, sharp, and aggressive, but a) you said "He is unbeatable when his client is right, and never takes a case unless he is sure they are" which I is what I took up with you in the first place.
And b) as you are “impartial” when it comes to R. Tendler, I am “impartial” when it comes to SF, and I only know about one case (and his practices and approach there specifically) and what I read in the papers of his quotes and practices when it comes to being the Toain for the RCA. I should preface this with the idea that in Beis Din, there really is no concept of a Toain. A Toain is basically someone who is familiar with how Batei Dinim are supposed to operate – specifically the Chazakas, umdinos, and other tools that the Dayanim use to determine the facts of the case. The problem with having a Toain is that these tools are to be used by the Dayanim to determine the facts – not used by the people bringing the case before the Dayanim (or their helpers/advisors the Toainim). Once the Toain uses these tools they loose all efficacy, they become mere technicalities to be twisted into perversions of justice. If we were talking about a purely Halachic ruling, such as with Kashrus where it is purely a Halachic phenomenon, then technicalities are warranted. But when it comes to finding Justice, or getting to the truth of the situation, then technicalities become impediments and are destructive.
For example, there is a rule that if a witness implicates himself partially we can believe the rest of his testimony. When a witness comes and does so, the Dayanim will take this principle into account and give credence to the testimony. This principle comes about from Chazal’s understanding of Human nature, psychology and experience from the Batei Dinim in their times (which would apply to all times). Comes along a Toain who knows about this principle, so he advises his client to throw in something incriminating into his testimony so the Dayanim will believe him. This has nothing to do with Human nature, psychology or the witnesses veracity – it has only to do with a Toain using a principle (out of context and undermining the entire process of Chakira V’Drisha the Dayanim are supposed to use).
From my impartial reading of the reports, the case I know in particular, and the idea of a Toain in general, I can say that SF is not after the truth, not involved with pursuing Justice for his clients, and merely involved in his own pursuit of his career – successful as it may be.
And I apologize if I seem to be coming out against SF in particular so strongly - my umbrage is mostly due to my understanding of the Toain in todays Bais Din. Though my reading of how he operates does not help in dissuading me . . .
JWG,
The bais din system evolved more into a secular advocate system over the years.
Due to many differences of the nature of the dayan itself.
The dayan of yesterday,being a dayan or rosh bais din was his only job.
That is almost non existent today.
Dayanim are rosh yeshivas,kashrus administrators..etc.
The reason that makes a difference in our conversation is because the dayanim are NOT well equipped to scrutinize various details and information processing that they should.
They rely on the Toain to provide this to them.
I never said Fried was a tzaddik.
He is an advocate,and he feels his job is to advocate his client's position within the confines of halacha.
He also hates to lose.
Combining all the human elements involved when dealing with money,power,reputation etc.,there of course is going to be stretching of the truth to say the least.
I do not vouch for anyone,what I am saying is the Bais Din structure is and was imperfect,and that includes all the human beings involved as well.
this fried dude is the biggest piece of drek that ever laid eyes on Choshen Mishpet. I sat against him once, and I mopped the floor with him. he is nothing more that a pile of hot air, and the littlest prick puts him in his place. You just need to deal with him with the same manner as he does.
Having said all this, I still feel that how appropo that the son of the so called rabbi whose opinion on mettzizah pepah is so well known... has TWO children that are prominent rabbis and caught with the pants down... getting metzizah.....
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